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the notion that our elected leadership can't do the same thing is mind boggling to them. it needs to stop. >> only if. kristen welker at the white house. good morning to you. a lot happening in d.c. a lot happening on capitol hill i assume, a lot happening at the white house as well. >> it sure is, good morning, it j. all eyes on the senate right now. minority leader mitch mcconnell and majority leader harry reid try to cobble together a last minute deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. this on the heels of the meeting that happened at the white house. and top congressional leaders met for about an hour. source who's have knowledge say the president laid out two options for lawmakers, one, either come up with a plan that can pass through both chambers to avoid that deadline or allow his pro poisal to go up for a vote in both chambers. under his plan, bush-era tax cuts would be extended for those making $240,000 or less and rates for top income earners. something that a lot of republicans do like and it would call for extending unemployment insurance benefits and a number of oth
the notion that our elected leadership can't do the same thing is mind boggling to them. it needs to stop. >> only if. kristen welker at the white house. good morning to you. a lot happening in d.c. a lot happening on capitol hill i assume, a lot happening at the white house as well. >> it sure is, good morning, it j. all eyes on the senate right now. minority leader mitch mcconnell and majority leader harry reid try to cobble together a last minute deal to avoid the fiscal cliff....
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there will be a new election for speaker of the house, presumably john boehner will be re-elected. there will be a different house of representatives. however, still a republican majority but a small er majorit. boehner has a newly affirmed position and perhaps the dynamic is a bit different. but, you know, then again maybe it will be the same as it's been the last couple of years. >> richard, you know what i think bothers some people bothers me. it's that there is a small segment it seems of the republican caucus in the house of representatives who were unable to accept the results of the election in 2008 and steamed to continue to be unable to accept the results of the election in 2012. thus, they feel they have a license to hold the country hostage because they don't agree with two presidential elections, which is truly, truly if you think about it enough, which i choose not to, is rather bothersome. >> it's bothersome, and it doesn't fit their own agenda. in addition to object structure things they want to keep taxes down for most americans. it's not just about the tea party re
there will be a new election for speaker of the house, presumably john boehner will be re-elected. there will be a different house of representatives. however, still a republican majority but a small er majorit. boehner has a newly affirmed position and perhaps the dynamic is a bit different. but, you know, then again maybe it will be the same as it's been the last couple of years. >> richard, you know what i think bothers some people bothers me. it's that there is a small segment it...
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this is part of the story of the 2012 election and maybe the never several elections. sam wang had an accurate forecasting model. he sent us a cartoon rather than a chart. he weighed in on the attacks being launched as people like us who are using data to talk about the election. it says quote, breaking, to surprise a sun dit the best system for determining which of two things is wiser. we posted these charts and a bunch of others. i'll tweet a link to them. that does it for tonight. and now it is time for the last word. have a good night. >> the house of representatives. has known for over a year that it has a monday night deadline for avoiding the fiscal cliff. so when are they going to start working on that? sunday night. >> stalemate gridlock joorks this is what the holidays look like. >> there is so much manure around here. >> this isn't school house rock. >> the fiscal cliff. whatever. >> there is barely 00 hours. >> the last minute was before christmas. >> what is going on here? is. >> how come there is no sense of urgency. >> the entire house coming back sunday
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i think that now -- now that we've had an election, and the american public has spoken, whatever they meant, it's time for the politicians to get together, come together as starbucks is saying, and get something done. nobody's going to get everything they want. but it's so much more important to solve the problem than for one side or the other to get what they want or blame the other. the atmosphere is just wrong. >> when you hear the argument for going over the cliff. when it's been told to me by both democrats and republicans, by actually some republicans as well, they say that it would be easier to get a deal after january 1st, because taxes will go up, and anything they do is a big tax cut. do you think that's right? do you think that we just need to wait this out and then it will happen quickly? >> no, i think if we do go over the cliff or down the slope, that there will be every reason to get it done quickly. people will be horrified at what's happened. but i don't think this argument that the taxes will go up automatically and, therefore, we can fool people into thinking that t
i think that now -- now that we've had an election, and the american public has spoken, whatever they meant, it's time for the politicians to get together, come together as starbucks is saying, and get something done. nobody's going to get everything they want. but it's so much more important to solve the problem than for one side or the other to get what they want or blame the other. the atmosphere is just wrong. >> when you hear the argument for going over the cliff. when it's been told...
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you don't get elected and say elected without being someone who is smart, gifted and savvy. and put them against scott brown there and it will be an ain'ting race. that is saying who knows who else could jump into the race. >> i think the key to the point is you is to go with scott brown's middle name and that is mitch mcconnell. and the idea that you are going to cut social service during this recession, at the end of the day i don't think you can vote for him as a leader. >> before we go, do you think there is a chance that scott brown won't run? >> he is waiting in the wings if scott brown doesn't run? >> he ran for governor of new york and more power to him if he he can pull it off but national republicans and the money thinks he has the best shot. >> thank you both for joining me tonight. coming up, our final update or the year. on the kind fund. i'll read some of the comments that you have left about it. in the rewrite tonight i can understand why the guys in the vatican are so wrong about marriage. so if it fair that we expect them to understand the first think about
you don't get elected and say elected without being someone who is smart, gifted and savvy. and put them against scott brown there and it will be an ain'ting race. that is saying who knows who else could jump into the race. >> i think the key to the point is you is to go with scott brown's middle name and that is mitch mcconnell. and the idea that you are going to cut social service during this recession, at the end of the day i don't think you can vote for him as a leader. >>...
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he lost it in the tough election this time around but in a special election, a low voter turnout, he'll be strong and we're not seeing much from the national democrats yet and i think they got a real problem here. >> frank, talk about that. because obviously if the democrats only -- and duval patrick wants someone interim in the post aend not run in the special election, wouldn't it make sense that person would gain the traction they need in a special election to face-off against someone with star power like scott brown? we look at the latest wbr poll with 58% favorable even after the bruising against elizabeth warren. do we know if he wants it? >> we don't know officially. his father died a couple of days ago so all attempts to get to him is put off and you saw him election night, came out and gracious and talked about coming back, the sub text there was there's a special election and farewell address to the u.s. senate, last couple of weeks ago, he said the same sort of thing so obviously it would be a nice triumph for him personally. i think he'll take a look at it. perhaps ted kenne
he lost it in the tough election this time around but in a special election, a low voter turnout, he'll be strong and we're not seeing much from the national democrats yet and i think they got a real problem here. >> frank, talk about that. because obviously if the democrats only -- and duval patrick wants someone interim in the post aend not run in the special election, wouldn't it make sense that person would gain the traction they need in a special election to face-off against someone...
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his boss surprised everyone and ran for re-election instead. then he had to step aside when another up and comer named barney frank got all the support. in 1982 race for lieutenant governor of massachusetts. the job wasn't much, but at least it was something. but the odds were long. there were a lot of ambitious democrats in massachusetts. and they all had the same idea. kerry had trouble qualifying for the ballot. he was an afterthought at the state convention. if he lost the primary, he'd probably be done for good. somehow he pulled out that race with less than 30% of the vote in the primary. all that got him was the lieutenant governors office which has snuffed out a few promising careers before. but there was an unexpected senate opening. without that twist, he might be in
his boss surprised everyone and ran for re-election instead. then he had to step aside when another up and comer named barney frank got all the support. in 1982 race for lieutenant governor of massachusetts. the job wasn't much, but at least it was something. but the odds were long. there were a lot of ambitious democrats in massachusetts. and they all had the same idea. kerry had trouble qualifying for the ballot. he was an afterthought at the state convention. if he lost the primary, he'd...
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which if that were to happen, what would the country think of our elected officials? but i want to ask that in a broad sense. you've followed politics for a long time. when you look at this from the outside and you're an average american, basically the media is saying, congress, if they don't do anything now, might as well pass something on january 3rd but in actuality they could pass today. do you think people are understanding how absurd it is? >> no. the american people understand how absurd this is. we've been seeing poll after poll after poll showing the american people, if the country goes over the cliff, would is to blame? the republicans get the majority of the blame. speaker boehner and his plan b could not even get the republicans in his caucus to pass a tax increase on people making $1 million when we already know through november election and through subsequent public opinion polls, the american people are perfectly fine with raising taxes on people earning incomes of $250,000 and above. so the idea that the republican party can't -- i mean, i should say s
which if that were to happen, what would the country think of our elected officials? but i want to ask that in a broad sense. you've followed politics for a long time. when you look at this from the outside and you're an average american, basically the media is saying, congress, if they don't do anything now, might as well pass something on january 3rd but in actuality they could pass today. do you think people are understanding how absurd it is? >> no. the american people understand how...
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he still needs to be elected speaker on january 3rd. if you're boehner, you let this thing slide past january 3rd, getting yourself elected, and then do what you have to do. >> will he be stronger in. >> he won't be stronger. there will be about eight more democrats. >> really it's his caucus. >> but he'll be speaker again. if it does it, then you have a couple days to consider -- if he gets reelected and is speaker again, then it's much more trouble to unseed somebody who is already sitting there as the speaker than it is to stop him from running in the first place. >> if i could add to what ryan is saying, the only thing is he'll be proposing to his caucus a tax cut. everybody changes on january 3rd. you're no longer talking about some people getting a tax increase. harry reid and john boehner for instance said -- the speaker saying the senate should take it up. harry reid is speaking on the floor. let's take a listen. >> because americans' taxes are approaching the wrong direction come the first of this year, americans will have less
he still needs to be elected speaker on january 3rd. if you're boehner, you let this thing slide past january 3rd, getting yourself elected, and then do what you have to do. >> will he be stronger in. >> he won't be stronger. there will be about eight more democrats. >> really it's his caucus. >> but he'll be speaker again. if it does it, then you have a couple days to consider -- if he gets reelected and is speaker again, then it's much more trouble to unseed somebody...
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if you want to win in the election, in the places where elections are also won. >> well, i can ask you, john heilemann as a keen observer of the electoral scene, was not the die cast for mitt romney and perhaps the rest of the year in terms of republican politics on the evening when all of the ten candidates on stage were asked to raise their hands if they were in favor of a dollar raise in revenue and $10 in budget cuts. and not one raised his or her hand. that was the definition of crazy. right there. >> a vivid illustration. and you think about mitt romney constantly out, trying to get further to the right than anybody who challenged him. get to the right of rick perry on immigration. get to the right of rick santorum on contraception. these are not places where you win elections in the middle of the electorate. those are positions that are, if not crazy, then pretty far outside the mainstream. >> and by the way, those are things that guys like my dad -- >> right. >> -- who never voted for a democratic president in his life, would look at the tv set and go, are they kidding me? i'm
if you want to win in the election, in the places where elections are also won. >> well, i can ask you, john heilemann as a keen observer of the electoral scene, was not the die cast for mitt romney and perhaps the rest of the year in terms of republican politics on the evening when all of the ten candidates on stage were asked to raise their hands if they were in favor of a dollar raise in revenue and $10 in budget cuts. and not one raised his or her hand. that was the definition of...
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>> i would. >> and safer politically for an election in a general election given the fact people normally want to switch parties every eight years. you don't want to run as a xerox of obama. your thoughts. >> i do think she's to the right on foreign policy. i think what's going to be really interesting is seeing where she is economically. she's been very savvy about using economic statecraft to advance foreign policy goals for the u.s. it will be interesting to see what she brings to the economic debate because i think that's still going to be a debate in the next election. jobs. how to grow, how to get the country back on track. it will be really interesting to see where it comes off. >> i have you as a feminist, everybody is a feminist right now. it's a good position to be in politically. do you think she will have an unusually high draw among women voters? and that's maybe a dumb question, but could she get up to 65% or 70% of the women voters as opposed to 55%. >> that would be a high number. if anybody can do it, she can. i see her having tremendous strength there, and that's a demog
>> i would. >> and safer politically for an election in a general election given the fact people normally want to switch parties every eight years. you don't want to run as a xerox of obama. your thoughts. >> i do think she's to the right on foreign policy. i think what's going to be really interesting is seeing where she is economically. she's been very savvy about using economic statecraft to advance foreign policy goals for the u.s. it will be interesting to see what she...
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the clear choice. >>> the state of hawaii has itsself a brand new united states senator elect. a little more than a week ago daniel inouye passed away outside of washington at the age of 88. his passing immediately kicked off a process to replace him in hawaii, and it is a process that's kind of unique to hawaii. hawaii's governor neil abercrombie was provided with a list of three potential replacements for senator inouye. the three they put together included the state's current lieutenant governor. the governor got to choose among those thee and tonight he announced his decision. >> i have informed the leadership of the united states senate with senator reid, the majority of the united states senate brian schatz will be the next senator from hawaii. >> brian schatz, governor abercrombie chose his own lieutenant governor to be the state's next senator. he's a former chairman of the presidential party. this appointment is not without controversy. senator daniel inouye's last request is that he be replaced by colleen hannabussa. tonight the senator's office releases this statemen
the clear choice. >>> the state of hawaii has itsself a brand new united states senator elect. a little more than a week ago daniel inouye passed away outside of washington at the age of 88. his passing immediately kicked off a process to replace him in hawaii, and it is a process that's kind of unique to hawaii. hawaii's governor neil abercrombie was provided with a list of three potential replacements for senator inouye. the three they put together included the state's current...
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they had about six two weeks for the election. people are going to look for skeptically coming up. >> biggest winner. again, i'm going to go first because once again, i couldn't be more obvious. i just think the guy who wins the presidential election is really, you know, by every measure the biggest winner. and he did it with this crushing unemployment rate on his administration which he did everything he could possibly do to fix. but he didn't have it politically fixed by the time he went into re-election. he got re-elected with an unemployment number that everybody thought was impossible. so that credit goes to president obama. biggest winner of 2012 for me. karen finny. >> i'm going with the home team and say msnbc because we kicked that other network. >> don't even try to get the ipad. she gets the ipad. >> you previewed mine. i was going to say nate silver. because i think math was a huge winner this year. he looked at the numbers and polls properly. he understood the relative weight of gallup and better polls. the people who
they had about six two weeks for the election. people are going to look for skeptically coming up. >> biggest winner. again, i'm going to go first because once again, i couldn't be more obvious. i just think the guy who wins the presidential election is really, you know, by every measure the biggest winner. and he did it with this crushing unemployment rate on his administration which he did everything he could possibly do to fix. but he didn't have it politically fixed by the time he...
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, you begin running for re-election immediately. >> yes. and not only that, in the senate, the key thing here is that mitch mcconnell needs to be a player because john boehner has kept tized him to do this, he's up for re-election in 2014. he has to consider that prospect as well. >> depply doug. >>> coming up, kurt andersen will be here. also, "new york times" columnist frank bruni and nbc white house correspondent, chuck todd. also, the lives they live. this sunday's "new york times" magazine profiles the memorable people and in some cases places that we lost in 2012. john kelly joins us for a look back at those who passed. >>> up next, mike allen with the "politico playbook." first is dylan drier tracking the winter storm. >> this storm is a big one. it affected the whole eastern third of the country for several days right through that all-important holiday for travelers. that certainly did wreak havoc on the airports. we ended up with more than a foot of snow in some areas, especially back into ohio, pennsylvania and new york state. gra
, you begin running for re-election immediately. >> yes. and not only that, in the senate, the key thing here is that mitch mcconnell needs to be a player because john boehner has kept tized him to do this, he's up for re-election in 2014. he has to consider that prospect as well. >> depply doug. >>> coming up, kurt andersen will be here. also, "new york times" columnist frank bruni and nbc white house correspondent, chuck todd. also, the lives they live. this...
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>> my trump award goes to karl rove, on election night, on politics, election night he had no idea what was going on. and on policy, this was the year when we really saw the public turn against his enduring legacy of trying to write state legislation into the constitution against people who happen to be gay. the public and the republican party is turning against that, and that will be his legacy sadly for him on this legislative issue. >> and for years, i've said the donald trump award has gone to donald trump. and once again i will give it to donald trump because i find it impossible to outdo donald trump on embarrassing yourself. there are a couple of people who tried, they tried really hard to outdo donald trump. let's take a look, for example, at todd aken. >> first of all, from what i understand from doctors, that is really rare, if it is a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down. >> and just when you thought he had that whole jurisdiction wrapped up, there came richard murdoch, who we should take a look at. >> i think when life begins in that
>> my trump award goes to karl rove, on election night, on politics, election night he had no idea what was going on. and on policy, this was the year when we really saw the public turn against his enduring legacy of trying to write state legislation into the constitution against people who happen to be gay. the public and the republican party is turning against that, and that will be his legacy sadly for him on this legislative issue. >> and for years, i've said the donald trump...
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on politics on election night he had no idea what was going on. on policy this was if year we really saw the public turn against his enduring legacy to go against people who happen to be gay. the public and the republican party are turning against that. that's going to be hig his legacy sadly for a long time. >> for 20 years on the show the donald trump award has gone to donald trump. once again, i feel i will be giving it to donald trump because i do find it impossible to updo donald trump on embarrassing yourself. there are a couple of people who tried. they trooid really hard to outdo donald trump. let's take a look at, for example, todd akin. >> yeah. >> first of all, from what i understand from doctors, that's really rare. if it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down. >> just when you thought he had that whole jurisdiction wrapped up, there came richard murdoch who we should also take a look at. >> i think even when life begins in that horrible situation in rape, that it is something that god intend
on politics on election night he had no idea what was going on. on policy this was if year we really saw the public turn against his enduring legacy to go against people who happen to be gay. the public and the republican party are turning against that. that's going to be hig his legacy sadly for a long time. >> for 20 years on the show the donald trump award has gone to donald trump. once again, i feel i will be giving it to donald trump because i do find it impossible to updo donald...
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>> my trump award goes to karl rove, on election night, on politics, election night he had no idea what was going on. and on policy, this was the year when we really saw the public turn against his enduring legacy of trying to write state legislation into the constitution against people who happen to be gay. and the republican party is turning against that. and that will be his legacy for a long time, sadly in the legislative issue. >> and for years, i've said the donald trump award has gone to donald trump. and once again i will give it to donald trump because i find it impossible to outdo donald trump on embarrassing yourself. there are a couple of people who tried, they tried really hard to outdo donald trump. let's take a look, for example, at todd akin. >> first of all, from what i understand from doctors, that is really rare, if it is a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down. >> and just when you thought he had that whole jurisdiction wrapped up, there came richard murdoch, who we should take a look at. >> i think that when rape occurs, life
>> my trump award goes to karl rove, on election night, on politics, election night he had no idea what was going on. and on policy, this was the year when we really saw the public turn against his enduring legacy of trying to write state legislation into the constitution against people who happen to be gay. and the republican party is turning against that. and that will be his legacy for a long time, sadly in the legislative issue. >> and for years, i've said the donald trump award...
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brown is yet to say whether he plans to run in the special election. as for the democrats, it's only clear who's not running right now. ted kennedy jr. was floated as a possible contender, but he says he's not interested. kennedy said he was grateful for the offers of support, but he considers connecticut to be his home, leaving the door open for a potential future run in that state. and actor and director ben affleck isn't ready to leave hollywood. the "argo" star, who had showed interest in politics, confirms he doesn't want kerry's seat, saying "i love massachusetts and our political process, but i am not running for office." >>> former president george h.w. bush is in the intensive care unit at houston methodist hospital this morning after suffering from what doctors call a stubborn fever. the president has been hospitalized since thanksgiving for bronchitis. he was expected to be released before christmas, but a series of setbacks sent him to the icu on sunday. the 88-year-old is currently on a liquid diet. doctors say they are cautiously optimist
brown is yet to say whether he plans to run in the special election. as for the democrats, it's only clear who's not running right now. ted kennedy jr. was floated as a possible contender, but he says he's not interested. kennedy said he was grateful for the offers of support, but he considers connecticut to be his home, leaving the door open for a potential future run in that state. and actor and director ben affleck isn't ready to leave hollywood. the "argo" star, who had showed...
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especially if he's thinking of going into elected office which has been rumored. >> i don't think he has an opportunity to do that anymore. >> it was really -- it does do a disservice to a whole lot of people. a lot of people put in their time for over a year. so it does -- again, i think he was trying to say his father's such a humble man that he would never want that and that we had to convince him that he should do this for the greater good. but it really just missed the mark. and family members should stay quiet. like you said in the opening, no one from the romney family should be speaking out. >> wasn't it ann romney that said we're lucky that he was running? jonathan, you also said in your column that the american people don't like to feel that the person who's running for president is doing them a favor. and as i pointed out, ann romney made that comment at one point. is that just something that the romneys never understood? that it's not about them, it's about us as americans. >> yeah. i mean, when you think back to the central question for mitt romney was why are you runnin
especially if he's thinking of going into elected office which has been rumored. >> i don't think he has an opportunity to do that anymore. >> it was really -- it does do a disservice to a whole lot of people. a lot of people put in their time for over a year. so it does -- again, i think he was trying to say his father's such a humble man that he would never want that and that we had to convince him that he should do this for the greater good. but it really just missed the mark....
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how much is he going to agree with the president when he has the election in 2014? some folks don't want to appear in any way too close to president obama right now. >> let's move on in terms of massachusetts. we got the information that ted kennedy jr. will not run. scott brown doing well in all the polls. president obama will be fully engaminged in pass pass. how is that looking? they don't have a big horse to run. >> the polls show a good chance of scott brown being able to at least have the even money to win back a senate seat in massachusetts. when you talk to the democrats, they say look, the way that scott brown was able to win in 2010 were under very special circumstances. huh a democratic candidate who was not running a good campaign. the democrats were caught unaware and very surprised. you had that very tough debate on health care. you have the vacancy and democrats say you won't have all the situations at the end. they might be able to beat scott brown in a special contest. >> always tough. you think they can pull it off. lastly it was about chuck hegel,
how much is he going to agree with the president when he has the election in 2014? some folks don't want to appear in any way too close to president obama right now. >> let's move on in terms of massachusetts. we got the information that ted kennedy jr. will not run. scott brown doing well in all the polls. president obama will be fully engaminged in pass pass. how is that looking? they don't have a big horse to run. >> the polls show a good chance of scott brown being able to at...